Chip16 Official thread (Development/Suggestions) - Page 22

paul_nicholls · June 27th, 2012, 04:10

I now have sound - at least in the bounce example, I will have to try others

paul_nicholls · June 27th, 2012, 05:58

I tried the Water.c16 demo found here:
http://forums.ngemu.com/showpost.php...&postcount=397

in my emulator and it does do sound, but I am not sure if the sound is working correctly.

So I tried the water demo in the RefChip16V1.43 binary, but that crashed - Windows7 (64-Bit) said that it had stopped working, no other errors.

Any ideas?

paul_nicholls · June 27th, 2012, 06:04

hmm...all the programs that uses sound seem to be crashing the RefChip16 emulator!!

EDIT: scratch that...ALL chip16 programs seem to be crashing the emulator

Does it support the latest version of the programs with the header, etc.?

This is what I am trying to run...

paul_nicholls · June 27th, 2012, 06:21

Besides the crashing, I realized that I had another issue with the sound in the Water.c16 demo...

sound spec for the sng command:

Code:

0E AD SR VT     SNG AD, VTSR   Sound generator (applies to all sound tones which follow).
                                  A = attack  (0..15)
                                  D = decay   (0..15)
                                  S = sustain (0..15, volume)
                                  R = release (0..15)
                                  V = volume  (0..15)
                                  T = type of sound:
                                     00 = triangle wave
                                     01 = sawtooth wave
                                     02 = pulse wave (is just square for now)
                                     03 = noise
                                     non-valid values default to 0 output

In the Water.s source code, it seems to be setting V (volume) as 0 each time, and indeed I was getting no sound untill I hardcoded a volume as a test instead of what was in the V nibble. See the source code below:

Code:

	sng 0x97, 0x02CA			; boat horn noise
	snp ra, 600
	jmp draw
sfx_wave:
	ldi rd, 0
	ldi ra, note_wave
	sng 0xC9, 0x03FC			; wave noise
	snp ra, 1000

The boat horn noise and wave noise are using $0 for volume!!

Last edited by paul_nicholls; June 27th, 2012 at 08:01..

**refraction** · June 27th, 2012, 09:09

Its still crashing? Aw man.... I thought I caught them all

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Prads · June 27th, 2012, 09:18

Paul, download and install this and everything will be alright: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8109
i.e. it will fix your RefChip16 crashing problem...

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paul_nicholls · June 27th, 2012, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prads

Paul, download and install this and everything will be alright: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8109
i.e. it will fix your RefChip16 crashing problem...

Interesting...I just tested RefChip16 here at home under Vista Home Premium (32-bit) and it doesn't crash.
It only crashes on my Win7 (64-bit) work machine.

Not sure I feel comfortable installing the update on my work machine LOL

Thanks anyway Prads

Prads · June 27th, 2012, 10:24

lol No worries.

I have Win7 64-bit too and before updating the DirectX the emu was crashing. Ref and I were talking about the issue via PM and he said to me he used June 2010 version of the SDK to compile the code. Hence the exe crashes if you don't have the June 2010 version of the DirectX redistributable installed.

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**refraction** · June 27th, 2012, 10:44

Ah yes, I shouldn't really tell people they need to update directx

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tykel · June 27th, 2012, 18:39

@Refraction: just spotted a bug in PaletteFlip.c16 and, by extension, your emulator.
You have stored the palette entries in little-endian format and reading them as such, whereas the spec states:

Quote:

Originally Posted by spec

Palettes can be stored in 3-byte, RGB format (bytes in that order).

So basically, treat each color component (byte) as an individual number, rather than read it as an integer.

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**refraction** · June 27th, 2012, 20:34

Hmm, you're right. I bodged it together and didn't really think, not helped the fact I suck at demos

ill get it fixed asap

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paul_nicholls · June 28th, 2012, 05:44

@tykel: I just tried your tchip16 assembler under Win7 (64-bit) and got an error dialog box about a missing DLL:

**refraction** · June 28th, 2012, 16:32

Yeh it seems to be missing that one then asks for libstdc++-6.dll, i tried getting mingw and associated dlls but it just crashed xD so i ended up rebuilding it with visual studio.

Attaching my exe so you can use that one for the min

Attached Files

tchip16.7z (33.5 KB, 2 views)

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tykel · June 28th, 2012, 17:12

Thanks ref, I have updated the file on the downloads page to one built with VS2010.

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tykel · June 29th, 2012, 04:15

Okay, here it is, the "surprise" as Shendo put it

It is called Js16. As the name implies, it is a Javascript Chip16 emulator, which runs in your web browser.
It runs all the roms (except Mandel.c16, unsure why), and implements all of spec 1.1 except sound (tricky in JS). It includes a simple debugger too, for good measure.

It should run full speed. You will need a browser which supports html5 (canvas) and some css3, so basically firefox 4+, chrome 10+, ie 9+.

The code needs improving, but hey, it works.

I might add some server-side roms too, if downloading them is a hassle.

Why did I do this? There is no chip16 emulator on linux, and this might make it easier for people to try out chip16 and go for it.

js16.png

Have a go here. Link in sig too. It will eventually get moved to its own PCSX2 page.

Feedback appreciated!

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Prads · June 29th, 2012, 05:05

Nice! but it isn't working for me. In log it says "Emuation starting..." and stays that way.

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**refraction** · June 29th, 2012, 08:56

Very awesome! Good job!

Prads : what browser?

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Prads · June 29th, 2012, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

Very awesome! Good job!

Prads : what browser?

Firefox 13.0

EDIT: Looking at the firefox error console and it says "b is undefined" in chip16.js

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**refraction** · June 29th, 2012, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prads

Firefox 13.0

EDIT: Looking at the firefox error console and it says "b is undefined" in chip16.js

hmm which game are you trying to run? it works here on ninja and pacman.

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Prads · June 29th, 2012, 10:36

Oh, yeah it's working. I was trying pikachu.c16 (the compiler demo). It gives "Invalid opcode: 0xf" error.

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June 27th, 2012, 06:21	#424
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	Besides the crashing, I realized that I had another issue with the sound in the Water.c16 demo... sound spec for the sng command: Code: 0E AD SR VT SNG AD, VTSR Sound generator (applies to all sound tones which follow). A = attack (0..15) D = decay (0..15) S = sustain (0..15, volume) R = release (0..15) V = volume (0..15) T = type of sound: 00 = triangle wave 01 = sawtooth wave 02 = pulse wave (is just square for now) 03 = noise non-valid values default to 0 output In the Water.s source code, it seems to be setting V (volume) as 0 each time, and indeed I was getting no sound untill I hardcoded a volume as a test instead of what was in the V nibble. See the source code below: Code: sng 0x97, 0x02CA ; boat horn noise snp ra, 600 jmp draw sfx_wave: ldi rd, 0 ldi ra, note_wave sng 0xC9, 0x03FC ; wave noise snp ra, 1000 The boat horn noise and wave noise are using $0 for volume!! Last edited by paul_nicholls; June 27th, 2012 at 08:01..

June 27th, 2012, 09:09	#425
refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 10,037	Its still crashing? Aw man.... I thought I caught them all __________________ http://www.pcsx2.net Intel i7 920 @ 3.4Ghz, POV GTX 570 1.3Gb, 1.8Tb HD space, 6Gb OCZ Reaper PC3-14400 Triple Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for! My Chip16 Emulator RefChip16 http://code.google.com/p/refchip16/
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June 27th, 2012, 20:34	#431
refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 10,037	Hmm, you're right. I bodged it together and didn't really think, not helped the fact I suck at demos ill get it fixed asap __________________ http://www.pcsx2.net Intel i7 920 @ 3.4Ghz, POV GTX 570 1.3Gb, 1.8Tb HD space, 6Gb OCZ Reaper PC3-14400 Triple Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for! My Chip16 Emulator RefChip16 http://code.google.com/p/refchip16/
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June 29th, 2012, 08:56	#437
refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 10,037	Very awesome! Good job! Prads : what browser? __________________ http://www.pcsx2.net Intel i7 920 @ 3.4Ghz, POV GTX 570 1.3Gb, 1.8Tb HD space, 6Gb OCZ Reaper PC3-14400 Triple Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for! My Chip16 Emulator RefChip16 http://code.google.com/p/refchip16/
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June 27th, 2012, 04:10	#421
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	I now have sound - at least in the bounce example, I will have to try others

June 27th, 2012, 05:58	#422
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	I tried the Water.c16 demo found here: http://forums.ngemu.com/showpost.php...&postcount=397 in my emulator and it does do sound, but I am not sure if the sound is working correctly. So I tried the water demo in the RefChip16V1.43 binary, but that crashed - Windows7 (64-Bit) said that it had stopped working, no other errors. Any ideas?

June 27th, 2012, 06:04	#423
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	hmm...all the programs that uses sound seem to be crashing the RefChip16 emulator!! EDIT: scratch that...ALL chip16 programs seem to be crashing the emulator Does it support the latest version of the programs with the header, etc.? This is what I am trying to run...

June 27th, 2012, 09:18	#426
Prads Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 89	Paul, download and install this and everything will be alright: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8109 i.e. it will fix your RefChip16 crashing problem... __________________ My Programming Projects: www.pradsprojects.com

June 27th, 2012, 10:24	#428
Prads Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 89	lol No worries. I have Win7 64-bit too and before updating the DirectX the emu was crashing. Ref and I were talking about the issue via PM and he said to me he used June 2010 version of the SDK to compile the code. Hence the exe crashes if you don't have the June 2010 version of the DirectX redistributable installed. __________________ My Programming Projects: www.pradsprojects.com

June 28th, 2012, 05:44	#432
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	@tykel: I just tried your tchip16 assembler under Win7 (64-bit) and got an error dialog box about a missing DLL:

June 28th, 2012, 17:12	#434
tykel Sober coder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London, UK Posts: 433	Thanks ref, I have updated the file on the downloads page to one built with VS2010. __________________ tchip16 (chip16 assembler) Js16 (browser chip16 emulator) mash16 (chip16 emulator) img16 (chip16 sprite converter) ______________________________________ Desktop: i5 750 @ 3.6 Ghz, 4GB ram, GTX 570 OC \| Windows 7 Pro 64 Laptop: (Thinkpad) i5 430M, 4GB ram, Intel IGP \| Arch Linux, Windows 7 Pro 64

June 29th, 2012, 04:15	#435
tykel Sober coder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London, UK Posts: 433	Okay, here it is, the "surprise" as Shendo put it It is called Js16. As the name implies, it is a Javascript Chip16 emulator, which runs in your web browser. It runs all the roms (except Mandel.c16, unsure why), and implements all of spec 1.1 except sound (tricky in JS). It includes a simple debugger too, for good measure. It should run full speed. You will need a browser which supports html5 (canvas) and some css3, so basically firefox 4+, chrome 10+, ie 9+. The code needs improving, but hey, it works. I might add some server-side roms too, if downloading them is a hassle. Why did I do this? There is no chip16 emulator on linux, and this might make it easier for people to try out chip16 and go for it. js16.png Have a go here. Link in sig too. It will eventually get moved to its own PCSX2 page. Feedback appreciated! __________________ tchip16 (chip16 assembler) Js16 (browser chip16 emulator) mash16 (chip16 emulator) img16 (chip16 sprite converter) ______________________________________ Desktop: i5 750 @ 3.6 Ghz, 4GB ram, GTX 570 OC \| Windows 7 Pro 64 Laptop: (Thinkpad) i5 430M, 4GB ram, Intel IGP \| Arch Linux, Windows 7 Pro 64

June 29th, 2012, 05:05	#436
Prads Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 89	Nice! but it isn't working for me. In log it says "Emuation starting..." and stays that way. __________________ My Programming Projects: www.pradsprojects.com

June 29th, 2012, 10:36	#440
Prads Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 89	Oh, yeah it's working. I was trying pikachu.c16 (the compiler demo). It gives "Invalid opcode: 0xf" error. __________________ My Programming Projects: www.pradsprojects.com

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