Windows 8 discussion - Page 21

Lasnap · March 1st, 2012, 22:45

I currently have a 20inch screen at 1600x900 res which is my main rig running windows 7 and my HTPC is attached to my 32inch tv running at 1360x768 which is the recommended res for windows 8

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DarkSamus · March 2nd, 2012, 01:52

Installed Win 8 on my PC and honestly, I am not very impressed.

As mentioned by others Win 8 has a very jarring experience, tasks that should be very simple (like shutting down windows) are a real pain.
Seriously, Why do I have to log out just to shut down Windows?

I have found myself having to "teach" LMN how to use it, which I have never had to do before in any windows os.

I really was expecting a better experience ten what it currently supplies.

Also, a while ago it was reported Win 8 would fully support 3D Vision and at least so far I can't find any 3DVision settings to activate it.

I was excited for Win 8, but the consumer preview is making me think I will stick with Win 7 once its released.

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Strike105X · March 2nd, 2012, 04:45

Well in defense of the 3D Vision part that needs to be done in conjunction with the videocard manufacture maybe that's why ?

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DarkSamus · March 2nd, 2012, 04:55

Very likely you are correct. I ain't fussed by that really.

But the other "problems" in Windows 8 need addressing ASAP

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As far as handhelds go, well, I get the Nintendo one.
Because I'm not an idiot.

**@ruantec** · March 2nd, 2012, 07:49

I personally do not like some areas of Windows 8 but from a developer and a business stand point i see a lot of potencial and oportunities for UI devs. The reason is quite clear and that's the fact that Win8 lacks some stuff and if they aren't added till release date devs are going to have the oportunity to create tools for the comunity or even sell them and earn some money if necessary which is one of my plans.

Since MS is bringing a new interface and user experience it is normal that people will refuse to use it or won't like it at all since they are used to the same style since ages... However there is a reason why they are doing that as they had to enter the mobile world too which is very lucrative atm. Still i would preffer to have 2 versions of Win8 instead of a hybrid one. However the base of the development is still C# and XAML and that's nothing but awesomeness at its best.

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Cheesus · March 2nd, 2012, 10:11

Currently dualling booting it on my laptop. Was on it for about 2 hours yesterday so far.

The experience is definitely not ready for prime time. The forced switching in and out of metro due to lack of apps, and the lack of a start button in regular explorer make it really really jarring to use. The two are completely seperate, but at least for now, are super dependent on one another. It's like two half baked experiences battling each other for your time.

There's definitely a long way to go before this is usable, and unless they iron out the UI a good bit, I think it might just crash and burn upon release. There's the potential for something great - bummer is it's just potential at the moment.

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Strike105X · March 2nd, 2012, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSamus

But the other "problems" in Windows 8 need addressing ASAP

Well judging by the way things are now i sure wont be using it if this is the direction...

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 2nd, 2012, 11:47

The biggest problem is Windows is killing windows....it should now be called Block Mishmash or something like that. Microsoft Rectangle Edition. Block Fest. Blocky Blocks Blocksville von Blockenstein.

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Strike105X · March 2nd, 2012, 11:52

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Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Blocky Blocks Blocksville von Blockenstein.

I vote that^, i got nothing against them moving on the mobile market but don't screw up my experience cause your lazy... i also got nothing against them trying to give it a shoot on the PC for more casual use, but again give me the option to choose between the good old regular use and the new one, which brings us back to lazy.

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Silenus · March 2nd, 2012, 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

The biggest problem is Windows is killing windows....it should now be called Block Mishmash or something like that. Microsoft Rectangle Edition. Block Fest. Blocky Blocks Blocksville von Blockenstein.

Ballmer was quoted saying: developers, developers, developers, developers...

This time is: tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles, tiles.....

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S.SubZero · March 2nd, 2012, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSamus

Seriously, Why do I have to log out just to shut down Windows?

You don't. You go to the lower right corner, Settings, Power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSamus

I was excited for Win 8, but the consumer preview is making me think I will stick with Win 7 once its released.

I prefer to wait and see what they do. I see lots of places to tweak and improve, but I also keep in mind that they have the better part of a year still before it's released.

You know it's not released, right?

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runawayprisoner · March 2nd, 2012, 18:43

Well, I guess we can reserve our judgment until it's released since it's evident that Microsoft did "change" (read: degrade/downrank) features going from the Developer Preview to the Consumer Preview.

On a side note, taking a whole year to bring Windows 8 to tablets isn't a good idea IMO. The tablet landscape has changed significantly. Depending on what Apple announces in their iPad 3 next week, it will change a lot of things.

While Microsoft is working on their software, Apple will have yet another year to pile on the success of the next tablet that they'll announce. And the same goes for Google and all Android manufacturers. Imagine that...

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 2nd, 2012, 21:39

So Consumer Preview =/= Beta 1?

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runawayprisoner · March 2nd, 2012, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

So Consumer Preview =/= Beta 1?

To Microsoft, it's beta XXXX. (based on build)
To observers, it's Beta 2 (after Developer Preview).
To Microsoft fans, it's Beta -1000, and public release is considered beta 1.
To Microsoft haters, it's a piece of ****.

Personally, I think it's beta 2, or at least the second version of Windows 8 that Microsoft is comfortable with sharing to the public. And also personally, I think the current version is a piece of ****.

Funny, though, I actually like the blocky and minimalist interface. I just absolutely dislike its performance and the way it's laid out.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 2nd, 2012, 21:51

Weren't they hiding behind complaints on the dev preview by claiming it it's a pre-alpha's pre-alpha proof of concept alpha or something like that?

Basically what I was asking is can MS still hide behind the excuse of it being the earliest of days or has the cat finally been let out of the bag completely (or at least enough for me to go find a pitchfork)?

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runawayprisoner · March 2nd, 2012, 22:01

Yeah, they can hide behind that excuse as long as their fans allow them to.

In fact, I think they can definitely get away with it until Release Candidate starts showing up on torrent sites... if we still have torrent sites by the time Microsoft is done "changing" Windows 8, that is.

**@ruantec** · March 2nd, 2012, 22:08

Microsoft should hire me to join the Windows 8 UI development

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Silenus · March 2nd, 2012, 23:43

Getting a bit used to it on my netbook.

What sucks is that I have no gestures on my trackpad, so I can't swipe to see all my tiles and can't pinch to zoom on the metro iexplorer.

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Lasnap · March 3rd, 2012, 00:05

Looks like they removed the reg hack for getting rid of the metro UI as I do not see PREnable where it was in the Developer Preview registry which just sucks. Guess I could try adding it and hope that it works.

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Silenus · March 3rd, 2012, 01:06

After using this I think I'll reach to every corner on a windows pc trying to find the task switcher.

What a pain.
Cant seem to share on the network, even the homegroup doesn't connect.

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March 1st, 2012, 22:45	#401
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,872	I currently have a 20inch screen at 1600x900 res which is my main rig running windows 7 and my HTPC is attached to my 32inch tv running at 1360x768 which is the recommended res for windows 8 __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

March 2nd, 2012, 01:52	#402
DarkSamus PC game modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: Mail You Dummy _______________________ Posts: 5,895	Installed Win 8 on my PC and honestly, I am not very impressed. As mentioned by others Win 8 has a very jarring experience, tasks that should be very simple (like shutting down windows) are a real pain. Seriously, Why do I have to log out just to shut down Windows? I have found myself having to "teach" LMN how to use it, which I have never had to do before in any windows os. I really was expecting a better experience ten what it currently supplies. Also, a while ago it was reported Win 8 would fully support 3D Vision and at least so far I can't find any 3DVision settings to activate it. I was excited for Win 8, but the consumer preview is making me think I will stick with Win 7 once its released. __________________ Do you play PC RE5, RE6 or SSF4AE but hate that the button mappings uses XBOX360 buttons? Try my Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6 or Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Playstation button mods! As far as handhelds go, well, I get the Nintendo one. Because I'm not an idiot.

March 2nd, 2012, 04:45	#403
Strike105X ヒットハード＆高速 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aincrad Posts: 13,688	Well in defense of the 3D Vision part that needs to be done in conjunction with the videocard manufacture maybe that's why ? __________________ DeviantArt\|AnimeList\|PC Config

March 2nd, 2012, 04:55	#404
DarkSamus PC game modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: Mail You Dummy _______________________ Posts: 5,895	Very likely you are correct. I ain't fussed by that really. But the other "problems" in Windows 8 need addressing ASAP __________________ Do you play PC RE5, RE6 or SSF4AE but hate that the button mappings uses XBOX360 buttons? Try my Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6 or Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Playstation button mods! As far as handhelds go, well, I get the Nintendo one. Because I'm not an idiot.

March 2nd, 2012, 07:49	#405
@ruantec Crazy GFX coder Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dominican Republic/Austria Posts: 8,107	I personally do not like some areas of Windows 8 but from a developer and a business stand point i see a lot of potencial and oportunities for UI devs. The reason is quite clear and that's the fact that Win8 lacks some stuff and if they aren't added till release date devs are going to have the oportunity to create tools for the comunity or even sell them and earn some money if necessary which is one of my plans. Since MS is bringing a new interface and user experience it is normal that people will refuse to use it or won't like it at all since they are used to the same style since ages... However there is a reason why they are doing that as they had to enter the mobile world too which is very lucrative atm. Still i would preffer to have 2 versions of Win8 instead of a hybrid one. However the base of the development is still C# and XAML and that's nothing but awesomeness at its best. __________________ Current development tools: Visual C++.net, Visual C#.net Visual VB.net, Visual Webdeveloper.net Bloodshed Dev C++, Borland C++ Visual Basic 6

March 2nd, 2012, 10:11	#406
Cheesus Curiously Cheddar Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 2,078	Currently dualling booting it on my laptop. Was on it for about 2 hours yesterday so far. The experience is definitely not ready for prime time. The forced switching in and out of metro due to lack of apps, and the lack of a start button in regular explorer make it really really jarring to use. The two are completely seperate, but at least for now, are super dependent on one another. It's like two half baked experiences battling each other for your time. There's definitely a long way to go before this is usable, and unless they iron out the UI a good bit, I think it might just crash and burn upon release. There's the potential for something great - bummer is it's just potential at the moment. __________________ Desktop: Core i5 2500K @ 4.2Ghz; Radeon HD 6870 1GB; 8Gb 1333Mhz; 1.75Gb Seagate HD; 128Gb OCZ Vertex 4; 23" LS23A350HS; 24" LS24A350HS; Windows 8 Pro 64bit Lenovo x121e: Core i3 2367M; Intel HD3000; 4Gb 1333Mhz; 128Gb OCZ Vertex 4; 11" Matte Display; Windows 8 Pro 64bit

March 2nd, 2012, 11:47	#408
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,380	The biggest problem is Windows is killing windows....it should now be called Block Mishmash or something like that. Microsoft Rectangle Edition. Block Fest. Blocky Blocks Blocksville von Blockenstein. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 2nd, 2012, 18:43	#412
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Well, I guess we can reserve our judgment until it's released since it's evident that Microsoft did "change" (read: degrade/downrank) features going from the Developer Preview to the Consumer Preview. On a side note, taking a whole year to bring Windows 8 to tablets isn't a good idea IMO. The tablet landscape has changed significantly. Depending on what Apple announces in their iPad 3 next week, it will change a lot of things. While Microsoft is working on their software, Apple will have yet another year to pile on the success of the next tablet that they'll announce. And the same goes for Google and all Android manufacturers. Imagine that...

March 2nd, 2012, 21:39	#413
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,380	So Consumer Preview =/= Beta 1? __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 2nd, 2012, 21:51	#415
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,380	Weren't they hiding behind complaints on the dev preview by claiming it it's a pre-alpha's pre-alpha proof of concept alpha or something like that? Basically what I was asking is can MS still hide behind the excuse of it being the earliest of days or has the cat finally been let out of the bag completely (or at least enough for me to go find a pitchfork)? __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; March 2nd, 2012 at 21:56..

March 2nd, 2012, 22:01	#416
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Yeah, they can hide behind that excuse as long as their fans allow them to. In fact, I think they can definitely get away with it until Release Candidate starts showing up on torrent sites... if we still have torrent sites by the time Microsoft is done "changing" Windows 8, that is.

March 2nd, 2012, 22:08	#417
@ruantec Crazy GFX coder Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dominican Republic/Austria Posts: 8,107	Microsoft should hire me to join the Windows 8 UI development __________________ Current development tools: Visual C++.net, Visual C#.net Visual VB.net, Visual Webdeveloper.net Bloodshed Dev C++, Borland C++ Visual Basic 6

March 2nd, 2012, 23:43	#418
Silenus Pilgrim Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyperion Posts: 6,891	Getting a bit used to it on my netbook. What sucks is that I have no gestures on my trackpad, so I can't swipe to see all my tiles and can't pinch to zoom on the metro iexplorer. __________________ DELL XPS 13 ULTRABOOK ...Mis sueños son mentiras que algun día dejarán de serlo...

March 3rd, 2012, 00:05	#419
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,872	Looks like they removed the reg hack for getting rid of the metro UI as I do not see PREnable where it was in the Developer Preview registry which just sucks. Guess I could try adding it and hope that it works. __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

March 3rd, 2012, 01:06	#420
Silenus Pilgrim Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyperion Posts: 6,891	After using this I think I'll reach to every corner on a windows pc trying to find the task switcher. What a pain. Cant seem to share on the network, even the homegroup doesn't connect. __________________ DELL XPS 13 ULTRABOOK ...Mis sueños son mentiras que algun día dejarán de serlo... Last edited by Silenus; March 3rd, 2012 at 01:15..