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I'm guessing it would not just be a filmstrip but change depending on the situation. Think LG KF600. The world's first phone to incorporate touch that I know of at least. It had this really cool split screen thing going on.
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...g&idPhone=2244

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Originally Posted by Lasnap

Personally I dont get the filmstrip thing. What use would it have? I get the others as those would be quite useful for everyone.

Or it could be representing media, like extra storage.

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Verizon Opposes Apple's Effort To Halt Samsung Device Sales

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Verizon Wireless said an effort by Apple Inc. (AAPL) in California to block the sale of some Samsung Electronics Co. (SSNHY, 005930.SE) devices could hamper the carrier's efforts to roll out its fourth-generation network across the U.S.
"That investment depends on consumers having access to devices that can make use of that network," Verizon Wireless said in filing in U.S. District Court in Northern California. "The accused Samsung devices are among the few products that can access Verizon Wireless's next-generation high-speed network."
The comments are interesting because Verizon Wireless started selling Apple iPhones earlier this year, a move that has helped the carrier add more wireless customers this year than rival AT&T Inc. (T). It also sells the Samsung Droid Charge that operates on its 4G network.
Apple in April sued Samsung to halt the sale of its Galaxy line of mobile phones and tablets, charging the devices infringe a number of patents. The maker of the iPhone and iPad has had some success in Europe, where a German court banned sales of Samsung's Galaxy 10.1 tablet in that country.
Apple has said Samsung's screen icons, handset design and even device packaging infringe its patents.
Verizon Wireless is co-owned by Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) and Vodafone Group PLC (VOD, VODPF, VOD.LN).
-By Greg Bensinger, Dow Jones Newswires; 212-416-4676; greg.bensinger@dowjones.com

Rumors are that Verizon will succeed and will prevent any bans of the contested Samsung products. I wonder how terrible Apple's wrath will be then (no Verizon iPhone 5 maybe?)

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They already are. They started with a game-changing product but now they're being nearly static with it. They're evolving way too slowly and many android devices are leaving it in the dust.

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Originally Posted by Demigod

Verizon Opposes Apple's Effort To Halt Samsung Device Sales

Rumors are that Verizon will succeed and will prevent any bans of the contested Samsung products. I wonder how terrible Apple's wrath will be then (no Verizon iPhone 5 maybe?)

Well, sources cite this move as a way to appease Samsung after turning down the Galaxy S2.

Fact is that Apple has a higher chance of success whether Verizon is involved or not, because there are signs that Samsung actually "follow" Apple's designs too closely. And Apple has already either won injuctions, or going to get some temporary bans on the Galaxy Tab elsewhere.

Also if iPhone 5 goes CDMA + GSM then Verizon loses exclusivity after just... months of getting the iPhone 4, so they have all sorts of reason to get pissed by Apple.

My take: it's Verizon showing Apple how pissed they are. And it's Apple who politely smiles back with a finger.

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Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Well, sources cite this move as a way to appease Samsung after turning down the Galaxy S2.

That's the first time I've heard that, and I don't see much connection there (why would Verizon need to appease Samsung?). Verizon would probably have taken the S2 if it was LTE since they're clearly interested in promoting their network (it clearly didn't fit into their future LTE roadmap). The S2 is coming in LTE soon anyways so Verizon might get it in the end.

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Also if iPhone 5 goes CDMA + GSM then Verizon loses exclusivity after just... months of getting the iPhone 4, so they have all sorts of reason to get pissed by Apple.

I seriously doubt Verizon would piss Apple off because of speculation about the iPhone 5. They would have to be quite idiotic to piss off one of their biggest business partner due to speculative rumors.

To me, the fact that Verizon would risk damaging their relationship with Apple in this way shows that they are dead serious about their LTE network (they most likely turned down the S2 for the same reasons, even through it's one of the most desirable phones in the world). They're even pushing LTE onto the low-end of the price spectrum and it's clear they want a wide adoption of their new network. The iPhone 5 probably won't be using LTE so they have to lean strongly on other devices, and since Samsung is one of the leading vendors of high-end smartphones they need these devices. It makes good business sense and it looks like Verizon is more than willing to take the risk and incur Apple's wrath.

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Well, you're getting it backward.

Verizon is pissed by Apple. That's because if the iPhone 5 goes CDMA + GSM, then Verizon would lose exclusivity of iPhone, after less than 8 months of carrying the iPhone 4. They can risk battling it out with Apple because on the CDMA side of thing, there isn't a whole lot of CDMA networks in the US with the same coverage and reliability, so CDMA customers would mostly turn to Verizon.

But it's the fact that they soon have to reduce the prices of their iPhone 4s in stock by $100 soon, and without being able to cash in on the iPhone 5, that is pissing them off.

And it makes no sense for Verizon to argue with Apple because of... LTE. It's not like Apple will implement LTE because Verizon says so, nor will it make Verizon's LTE any better because they argue with Apple.

Plus if Apple doesn't have LTE on their phone this year, then they might do it next year.

I just don't think it's for that reason at all. If anything, it's Apple who offended Verizon first and got this onto themselves, not the other way around.

[Demigod]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Well, you're getting it backward.

Verizon is pissed by Apple. That's because if the iPhone 5 goes CDMA + GSM, then Verizon would lose exclusivity of iPhone, after less than 8 months of carrying the iPhone 4. They can risk battling it out with Apple because on the CDMA side of thing, there isn't a whole lot of CDMA networks in the US with the same coverage and reliability, so CDMA customers would mostly turn to Verizon.

But it's the fact that they soon have to reduce the prices of their iPhone 4s in stock by $100 soon, and without being able to cash in on the iPhone 5, that is pissing them off.

I don't see how "exclusivity" has anything to do with this. How is the iPhone an exclusive device anymore (I would imagine AT&T would be more pissed about this at this point). You make it seem like Verizon is taking pre-emptive revenge actions against Apple based on mere rumors (such actions are complete nonsense).

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

And it makes no sense for Verizon to argue with Apple because of... LTE. It's not like Apple will implement LTE because Verizon says so, nor will it make Verizon's LTE any better because they argue with Apple.

This has nothing to do with trying to get Apple to implement LTE. Verizon is trying to get a broad swathe of LTE devices for their customers, which happens to include the Samsung devices that Apple is trying to ban. You seem to see this as a personal Verizon vs Apple thing but it isn't (not everything revolves around Apple) - Apple just happens to be on the other side this time (if any other company tried to do the same thing they'd respond in a similar fashion). This makes good business sense since the loss of these devices directly impacts their business prospects and their envisioned future roadmap.

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Plus if Apple doesn't have LTE on their phone this year, then they might do it next year.

This is irrelevant since Verizon is interested promotiong the adoption of LTE this year. The impending ban is coming at a key time, just before the holiday season, so it's critical that they stop such bans before that time.

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Originally Posted by Demigod

I don't see how "exclusivity" has anything to do with this. How is the iPhone an exclusive device anymore (I would imagine AT&T would be more pissed about this at this point). You make it seem like Verizon is taking pre-emptive revenge actions against Apple based on mere rumors (such actions are complete nonsense).

At this point in the US, only AT&T and Verizon carry the iPhone 4. No other network does.

But imagine suddenly having Sprint, MetroPCS, etc... carry the iPhone the next day.

Also AT&T only has T-Mobile as direct competitor in GSM technology in the US, and they are already on their way to acquire T-Mobile so they could care less. They have had years of iPhone exclusivity anyway. Verizon hasn't had an iPhone for that long.

And yes, Verizon is taking pre-emptive revenge actions against Apple.

This has nothing to do with trying to get Apple to implement LTE. Verizon is trying to get a broad swathe of LTE devices for their customers, which happens to include the Samsung devices that Apple is trying to ban. You seem to see this as a personal Verizon vs Apple thing but it isn't (not everything revolves around Apple) - Apple just happens to be on the other side this time (if any other company tried to do the same thing they'd respond in a similar fashion). This makes good business sense since the loss of these devices directly impacts their business prospects and their envisioned future roadmap.

This is irrelevant since Verizon is interested promotiong the adoption of LTE this year. The impending ban is coming at a key time, just before the holiday season, so it's critical that they stop such bans before that time.

Well, it still makes no sense for them to chime in. Business or not. Why? Because their argument doesn't make even a dime of a difference to the injunction.

Here's why: http://www.litigatingapple.com/blog/...-v-samsun.html

Plus there is no reason Verizon's LTE growth would be slowed because the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or the Stealth V are absent. If it is, that means Verizon admits to other devices not making as much of an impact in their LTE data plan, which would incur batting eyelashes from other manufacturers.

Also by siding with Samsung, but only Samsung so far, Verizon shows that it only cares for Samsung, or it doesn't mind what is happening to HTC and Motorola right now (they are both being sued by Apple, by the way), so it is still a bad business move to make. Unless Verizon would like to chime in on both of the other two battles. But... they can't. Why? Because it's just as futile as this move.

It makes no business sense in the broader picture, and it makes no sense in the legal court, so either Verizon is doing it to spite Apple, or they actually don't know what the heck they are doing.

Unless gaining Samsung's favor is that big of a deal, but is it worth losing confidence from HTC and Motorola? I'd assume not, but then again, I'm not the one running the company.

And of course, it is possible that I'm wrong and it is just as you said, Verizon doesn't want to lose the Stealth V and Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the holiday season, but... even then, their legal department would and should have noticed the higher-ups of the futility of this move in a legal court. So judging from that angle, I'd say they made quite a stupid move.

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The US cell providers need to get over their special bands and join the rest of the world on GSM.

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Amazon introduced three new Kindles today at their event.



Kindle Touch at 99 bucks.

"Most advanced" E Ink display and what's said to be "extra long" battery life.

Kindle Touch 3g will set you back $149.

Works in 100 countries, and has no annual contract, monthly fees, anything. "It's free 3G wireless."
Bold part sounds awesome.



Kindle Fire Tablet.
Android-based, 7-inch display, $199 price tag
7-inch IPS display, dual-core processor, 14.6 ounces.
Amazon will back it up with a LOT of content.


And a vanilla Kindle with button no touchscreen at 79 bucks.

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The idea of LCD eBook readers drives me nuts. The whole reason standalone readers exist to begin with is for the use of eink screens. If you're going to use an LCD screen instead then there's zero point in buying a reader.

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Got 21.Mbps down and 6 up with my new Bionic. LTE is awesome, faster than my home network, heh.

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Is there such a thing as a brand exclusive micro-USB cable?

Just wondering whether I need to get a new one tomorrow for a non-Nokia phone or whether I can use my Nokia branded one irrespective of which phone.

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New Kindle family photo.

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Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Is there such a thing as a brand exclusive micro-USB cable?

Just wondering whether I need to get a new one tomorrow for a non-Nokia phone or whether I can use my Nokia branded one irrespective of which phone.

My samsung galaxy prevail cable switches a few of the pins around so another cable may not work with it. So it may be the same for you or it may not be. Only way to know is to try it out and see if it works for you.

Now that amazon has revealed their android tablet. I will be keeping an eye out on the specs and hope it can be rooted quickly. I will more then likely pick one up in the coming months if I can get enough saved up. I can use my phone for calls and the tablet for everything else I do on the phone and with the larger screen it will help a lot as my phone has a small 3.2 inch screen and its to small to really use for me as i need to hold it really close to my eyes and it starts giving me a headache if i look at it for to long.

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Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

And yes, Verizon is taking pre-emptive revenge actions against Apple.

T-Mobile lines up against Apple in Samsung lawsuit

Is T-Mobile also looking for revenge?

I actually read some time ago that one or more carriers will intervene if these patent wars actually resulted in bans. Looks like it's actually happening. I'm now waiting for AT&T to join the fray...

Originally Posted by Silenus

Kindle Fire Tablet.
Android-based, 7-inch display, $199 price tag
7-inch IPS display, dual-core processor, 14.6 ounces.
Amazon will back it up with a LOT of content.

And a vanilla Kindle with button no touchscreen at 79 bucks.

What I'm afraid of is that the Kindle Fire will not be available in Canada. Amazon's music and cloud services are currently unavailable for Canadians so the Fire would be useless over here.

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Originally Posted by Spyhop

The idea of LCD eBook readers drives me nuts. The whole reason standalone readers exist to begin with is for the use of eink screens. If you're going to use an LCD screen instead then there's zero point in buying a reader.

The fire thingy seems more like a normal tablet carrying the kindle name.

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