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[Phil]

Google buying Motorola? Interesting twist.....

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[@ruantec]

I see it as a desperate move as the war has just started when they thought they won already. the same goes for ARM/Nvidia's Tegra who is about to get some serious competition soon.

what i really love about all this is that WE are the ones that win.

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[imlost]

Originally Posted by Silenus

Best of luck to Asus with the Transformer 2.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for it until a Kal-El tablet actually hits the market.

Speaking of Asus Transformer, watch this video to the very end, or just skip to 2:10.

Spoiler:

I don't understand why anyone would want to shoot an arrow on a tablet. Then again why didn't they test the tablet against a bullet or grenade. I mean, you never know when someone will throw a grenade towards you and all you have to protect yourself is your trusty Asus Transformer.

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[niku]

i cant see the video.

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Here you go.

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[niku]

i still dont see it.

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[imlost]

Originally Posted by niku

i still dont see it.

Whoops, my bad. Should be fixed now.

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[niku]

is that guy crazy?

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[@ruantec]

Originally Posted by niku

is that guy crazy?

No, there are tons of retarded people out there with enough money to do such silly things that makes them think there "COOL" status will grow if they upload a video like that. in reality they just show something sane people know since ages and that's the fact that human stupidity has no limits.

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[Silenus]

Originally Posted by imlost

I wouldn't get my hopes up for it until a Kal-El tablet actually hits the market.

What do you mean by that?

I think in term of sales the Transformer is the number one android tablet.

They already have a great base of customers who will jump ship once a Kal-El transformer drops with a combination of great specs and the great price that Asus offered with the Transformer 1.

Plus they will maintain the same dock specs so you can use the same dock in the new tablet.

They are on a good path.

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[@ruantec]

I already pre-ordered the Transformer 2 and in case something goes wrong am getting another Kal-El one instead. also i signed in for upcomming intel tablets program where i can choose at a later time the tablet i want to get with Win8 when they get available.

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[runawayprisoner]

Glass tests are done in a way such that the camera used for recording wouldn't be able to catch those tiny hairline scratches that are probably all over the place on that screen.

Gorilla Glass ain't indestructible nor does it protect against anything like a knife scratch or anything of the sort. You can still scratch it pretty easily.

That aside, Win 8 tablet? Will most likely be on ARM. x86 is on its way out (of the mobile market) thanks to Intel.

[@ruantec]

hmmmm i thought intel was about to start the battle

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[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by @ruantec

hmmmm i thought intel was about to start the battle

They already lost it.

Their lowest power sipping chip uses almost 10W at full load and idles at more than 10 times the power of ARM... Your average Cortex A9 chip runs at less than a watt at full load, GPU included.

That's why Apple "scared" Intel by stating that they would go ARM if Intel couldn't produce better solutions, and that was why the Ultrabook initiative was sparked.

Imagine by the time Intel is done with their lowest power chips that can achieve over 10 hours of battery life, Apple would have introduced the next Macbook Air with over 20 hours of battery life and years of standby. That's just bad... for Intel.

Edit:

Remember I mentioned Intel QuickSync in another thread that would speed up movie encoding? Well, that's Intel fearing that Apple's iPad 3 or next iBook Air or whatever would usurp x86. Even now, Apple is already experimenting with low-power dedicated processors that are good at only one task, but are very good at that one specific task. The iPad 2 and iPhone 4, for instance, can both encode 720p movies in less time than all of Apple's Macbook combined:

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/03/i...ie-speed-tests

If they go with this approach and leverage more on processing power from dedicated chips such as encoder, decoder, GPU, etc... it wouldn't be long before they can come out with a device as small as the iPhone 4 that can encode 1080p video faster than the current fastest x86 octo-core CPU.

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[@ruantec]

That's good an all but even if i like Apple i do not buy there hardware(non-mobile). still i doubt Intel is going to just do nothing about it since they are a pretty big corporation.

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[runawayprisoner]

And that's why they initiated Ultrabook. The move isn't to combat the Macbook Air. The move is so that Intel can reel in both corporate partners and consumers for the future, so they can still sell more x86 chips.

Currently, Apple is arguably one of the largest purchasers of x86 components. That may change very quickly if they suddenly decide to go ARM. Apple currently holds the power to shift the demand of the market onto whatever cool gadget they'd come out with, courtesy of their reputation. If they were to make a switch into ARM, you'd no doubt see competitors and Google scrambling to get ARM mobile devices out on the market. Oh wait, they did.

So if Apple were to go ARM with Macbooks as well, Intel would quickly get drained out of the market. To avoid this, they are boosting x86 reputation by initiating Ultrabook, as a way of saying: they still care about the application of the processor, whereas the fact is they don't care about anything but whether they can sell more chips or not.

Read my edit above to know more about why I think Apple may make a switch to ARM very soon.

[@ruantec]

That sounds nice but am not the encoder type of user. also even if the design of my apps are a bit Apple-like am not the big Apple fan which is the reason i mostly reject there products where the iphone was an exception for a short period of time. however if they switch to ARM on future versions of there actual x86 devices i guess lots of people will be annoyed as it will be a similar scenario with the Power-PC -> x86 transition and let alone compatibility. still there are for sure people that will get a smile while reading that

...i for one avoid apple products as much as i can but praise there love for design which is why half of my heart belongs to Apple in that area

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[runawayprisoner]

PowerPC -> x86 on Mac spawned Rosetta, which was in form a PowerPC emulator of sort.

It wasn't dropped until 10.7 just recently. Apple kept it working, and quite well at that, for a long while.

If the situation arises, I have no doubt Apple would just release a x86 emulator for ARM. But due to the way their SDKs work, most applications built using Apple's default SDK only has to be recompiled to be compatible with another platform.

Compatibility was never a factor in the transition from PowerPC to x86. It was a concern for a while, but until 10.5 or 10.6, it was just a "oh yeah, it's a new Macbook" sort of mentality.

It's not really about whether you love or hate Apple at this point. I'm merely talking about them because they are the company leading the pack. It's not like I've been following Apple ever since they were formed, nor is it because I love them. I just like the way their products are put together and the value for performance. It doesn't really have anything to do with brand-loyalty to me. Brand means pretty much... anything that works well.

It's the same thing for phone or PC. With PC, I'd recommend Intel CPU and so on... with laptops, I'd recommend Apple laptops. It's that sort of mentality. Not about fandom or anything, but about the best product in my opinions and from my experience.

I'd be praising AMD or Acer or HP or ASUS just the same... if any of those companies still care. Honestly, if the iPad was made by another company, the same tone would apply to them and Apple would still be the premium brand that's expensive but good for nothing.

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[Silenus]

RIP WebOS, Touchpad and Pre Phones.

Seems HP wants to get rid of them.

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