Cxbx progress

[shogun_nihon]

Originally Posted by blueshogun96

btw, would anyone want Metal Gear Solid II?

It would be great!!! Also as you said, Team Ninja games would be great too.

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[blueshogun96]

Originally Posted by indaman

Have you tried to make run Jet Set Radio Future?

Would be amazing to get this game to work.

Yeah, we get this request alot actually. What people don't realize is that we can't work with this game because no one has the XDK it uses except Caustik. I haven't heard from Caustik in ages and I don't know if he even still has it. So don't expect JSRF support in the near or distant future, sorry to say.

Originally Posted by Borisz

Given how close the xbox is to a normal PC, I honestly don't think LLE is even needed. (maybe except for bios calls and such, things unique to the xbox hardware)

Quite frankly, I have to disagree. It depends on what type of results you want from the emulator. I have chosen LLE over HLE for a number of reasons. First of all, you have to worry about games with different XDK versions. Unless you're microsoft, it would be impossible to get them all as each one is needed to use HLE to the fullest. Besides, HLE is not a magical solution for Xbox emulation. If you ask me, it's just plain overrated in many areas. Sure it's cool in all, but there's more to the picture. There's more to HLEing Xbox than moddified versions of DirectX. Even if I had every XDK, it wouldn't make a difference. Why? Because of the Xbox kernel. This would have to be HLEd too (which you all know). Sure it's just like a Win2k kernel, but it's no where near identical. It's still alot of work to do and some are just too low level IMO (i.e. MmClaimGpuInstanceMemory). Even if I were to HLE every one of those kernel functions, it STILL would not make a difference. Here's where it gets ugly. Let's take a look at Cxbx and Xeon. In order for either of then to run Halo, there are special hacks required to run it. One of them requires a brute force hack to get around bink video library calls. These cannot be HLEd. And many many many Xbox games uses them. Other various libraries can be used in games that also cannot be HLEd. But that's only one hack. There's also catching exceptions, and patching faulty x86 code that do not effect the Xbox, but effect the PC, etc. The list goes on and on. Creating these hacks for each and every game is very time consuming. Even caustik has admitted to the need to implement some form of LLE in Cxbx. So without LLE certain games (like State of Emergency) will never be emulated...

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[kekko]

Originally Posted by Nisse

You're using a vintage version of the Platform SDK. You'll need version 6.1 for newer Visual Sudio versions.

Thanks Nisse, I just installed the newer sdk, but the error is still the same:

------ Build started: Project: CxbxKrnl, Configuration: Release Win32 ------
Compiling...
VertexShader.cpp
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'INIT_ONCE'
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(331) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'PINIT_ONCE'

[Chrono Archangel]

well the error messages pretty much tells you how to fix them so... so add 'int' where it says its missing a type specifier and add the ';' where it says to.

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[kekko]

Originally Posted by Chrono Archangel

well the error messages pretty much tells you how to fix them so... so add 'int' where it says its missing a type specifier and add the ';' where it says to.

well that's usually right if it doesn't happen with a standard microsoft sdk header file. That's probably related to msvc setup.

[Miliardo]

If the XBox works like a PC, these APIs would be translated into system calls, and the kernel should be unique - it should be the one that is installed in the console.
So why we have to care about the difference between XDKs?
Could you be going to say that every games distributes with a kernel and so they access hardware with different version of kernel? And the emulator should determine the version of XDK, capture these system calls and translate/reimplement them?

About the Xbox360, I guess Microsoft can ask developers recompile their codes uses the XBox360 SDK, with a library that provides the same APIs as the XDK. Then thay bundle the pack and ask end-users to install it - that may be the fact of the Xbox Game Support Update. When a XBox game is inserted, the system can just detect the title of it, and run the corresponding binary that targeted to the XBox360. That's the best way.
Well, the update pack is too small for me too believe it.

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[Nisse]

Originally Posted by kekko

Thanks Nisse, I just installed the newer sdk, but the error is still the same:

------ Build started: Project: CxbxKrnl, Configuration: Release Win32 ------
Compiling...
VertexShader.cpp
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'INIT_ONCE'
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C4430: missing type specifier - int assumed. Note: C++ does not support default-int
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(331) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'PINIT_ONCE'

Hm, that's odd, VertexShader.cpp shouldn't include winbase.h. Open CxbxKrnl project properties -> C/C++ -> Advanced and enable "Show includes". Then rebuild VertexShader.cpp and the compiler output will show a tree of how includes get pulled in.

[kekko]

Originally Posted by Nisse

Hm, that's odd, VertexShader.cpp shouldn't include winbase.h. Open CxbxKrnl project properties -> C/C++ -> Advanced and enable "Show includes". Then rebuild VertexShader.cpp and the compiler output will show a tree of how includes get pulled in.

I guess it gets it through cxbxkrnl.h > windows.h:

------ Build started: Project: CxbxKrnl, Configuration: Release Win32 ------
Compiling...
VertexShader.cpp
Note: including file: ..\..\src\CxbxKrnl/CxbxKrnl.h
Note: including file:  ..\..\src\Cxbx.h
Note: including file:  ..\..\src\Common/Xbe.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common/Error.h
Note: including file:    ..\..\src\Cxbx.h
Note: including file:   C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\cstdio
Note: including file:    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\yvals.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\crtdefs.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\sal.h
Note: including file:       c:\program files\microsoft visual studio 9.0\vc\include\codeanalysis\sourceannotations.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\crtassem.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\vadefs.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\use_ansi.h
Note: including file:    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\stdio.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\crtdefs.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\swprintf.inl
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPrefix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPosfix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPrefix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPosfix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPrefix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPosfix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPrefix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPosfix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPrefix1.h
Note: including file:   ..\..\src\Common\Win32\AlignPosfix1.h
Note: including file:  C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\windows.h
Note: including file:   C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\sdkddkver.h
Note: including file:   C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\excpt.h
Note: including file:    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\crtdefs.h
Note: including file:   C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\stdarg.h
Note: including file:   C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\windef.h
Note: including file:    ..\..\dx81\include\winnt.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\ctype.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\crtdefs.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\specstrings.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\specstrings_adt.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\specstrings_strict.h
Note: including file:       C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\specstrings_undef.h
Note: including file:     ..\..\dx81\include\basetsd.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\guiddef.h
Note: including file:      C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\string.h
Note: including file:       C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\crtdefs.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\pshpack4.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\poppack.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\pshpack4.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\pshpack2.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\poppack.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\pshpack2.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\pshpack2.h
Note: including file:     C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\poppack.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\poppack.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\pshpack8.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\poppack.h
Note: including file:     c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\poppack.h
Note: including file:   C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\\include\winbase.h(330) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'INIT_ONCE'

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[Nisse]

Originally Posted by kekko

Note: including file:    ..\..\dx81\include\winnt.h

Ah, there's the problem. You're getting an old winnt.h from DirectX, you should use the header from the Platform SDK. Change the order of the include paths in your build environment.

[kekko]

Originally Posted by Nisse

Ah, there's the problem. You're getting an old winnt.h from DirectX, you should use the header from the Platform SDK. Change the order of the include paths in your build environment.

Thanks Nisse, that solved my problem;
keep up the excellent work (and eventually switch to dx9! just kidding)

EDIT:
just tried to run my copy of futurama, but it crashes with the following message, I guess it's a memory access error... is there something I'm missing?



here's a link to the kernel log: krnldebug.txt

thanks for your help.

p.s. I guess it's normal the opening movies flickers...

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Last edited by kekko; September 19th, 2008 at 23:23..

[Nisse]

Originally Posted by kekko

Thanks Nisse, that solved my problem;
keep up the excellent work (and eventually switch to dx9! just kidding)

Yes, D3D8 is deprecated and lacks good debugging tools. I'm actually leaning more towards an OpenGL backend fully wrapping Xbox D3D instead of forcing Xbox extension upon Win D3D.

Originally Posted by kekko

Hi,
just tried to run my copy of futurama, but it crashes with the following message, I guess it's a memory access error... is there something I'm missing?

In Cxbx.h disable _DEBUG_ALLOC and compile in Release mode. I'm not sure why debug mode fails, it may be a conflict between the different versions of MS CRT used by the game and our DLL.

Disable all debug tracking when testing performance.

Originally Posted by kekko

p.s. I guess it's normal the opening movies flickers...

Yes, I just added a very dirty hack just to check if the decoding worked. I recommend removing the movie files to cut down loading time and avoid epileptic seizures. The game will just skip files that are not found.

I'm attaching some hand-crafted, unsigned savegames for Futurama that I use when testing.

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Last edited by Nisse; September 19th, 2008 at 23:54..

[kekko]

Originally Posted by Nisse

Yes, D3D8 is deprecated and lacks good debugging tools. I'm actually leaning more towards an OpenGL backend fully wrapping Xbox D3D instead of forcing Xbox extension upon Win D3D.

porting all this in opengl? good luck! You'll need it!

Originally Posted by Nisse

In Cxbx.h disable _DEBUG_ALLOC and compile in Release mode. I'm not sure why debug mode fails, it may be a conflict between the different versions of MS CRT used by the game and our DLL.

Thanks it worked perfectly. Unfortunately I still have some minor troubles

Originally Posted by Nisse

Yes, I just added a very dirty hack just to check if the decoding worked. I recommend removing the movie files to cut down loading time and avoid epileptic seizures. The game will just skip files that are not found.

Thanks for recommendation

Originally Posted by Nisse

I'm attaching some hand-crafted, unsigned savegames for Futurama that I use when testing.

Thanks again...I just need to know where to put them...

Originally Posted by Nisse

Your debug log says it's using XDK 4627, while mine version is for 5233. Is it NTSC?

it's the PAL version.

Thanks for everything, I really appreciated that!
Please let me know of anything you need.

[Nisse]

Originally Posted by kekko

porting all this in opengl? good luck! You'll need it!

The Wine project have already done most of the work...

Originally Posted by kekko

Thanks it worked perfectly. Unfortunately I still have some minor troubles

There's a few issues I haven't sorted out yet. As you can see, the character is rendered with the shadow material when the shadow is being updated. When pausing the game, or during some animation sequences the character is rendered as intended. Additionaly some animated meshes are corrupted. Debugging complex scenes is hard, and the good debugging tools are for OpenGL or D3D9+.

Originally Posted by kekko

Thanks again...I just need to know where to put them...

userdir\Application Data\Cxbx\EmuDisk\U

Originally Posted by kekko

it's the PAL version.

Nevermind, I checked the wrong log.

Originally Posted by kekko

Please let me know of anything you need.

99% of the time working on Cxbx is spent debugging, and as discussed above, we still have some issues to track down.

[blueshogun96]

@everyone, I think only the PAL version of Futurama works in this latest source build. The NTSC crashes rather hard. The same goes for Battlestar Galactica (NTSC only shows intros if you add the anti-WBINVD hack for the NTSC version yourself), and Celebrity Deathmatch. Just so everybody knows...

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[blueshogun96]

Oh God, I think I'm getting a bit jealous now that everyone on the team is making more progress than me Just a little motivation...

Anyway, I managed to get some stuff working with Smashing Drive (XDK 4242) a few hours ago. It took a handful of hacks and render state additions, but I got it (sorta). I couldn't get to the menus or ingame because the game like to crash at random locations and usually it's never the same twice. Xbox handles exceptions differently than a PC does (afaik) so some faulty code doesn't effect the Xbox. The problem seems almost impossible to track -_- Just keeping you all updated on my end...

More about XDK 4242, it's closely similar to 4361 so you can just count it as the same. Just make the conversion in HLEIntercept.cpp and you're good to go.

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[shogun_nihon]

Way to go shogun.

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[Nisse]

Originally Posted by blueshogun96

@everyone, I think only the PAL version of Futurama works in this latest source build.

What compiler do you use? Did you disable _DEBUG_ALLOC and compile in release mode? Can you send me the logs and XBE dumps for Futurama and Celebrity Deathmatch?

Originally Posted by blueshogun96

Anyway, I managed to get some stuff working with Smashing Drive (XDK 4242) a few hours ago. It took a handful of hacks and render state additions, but I got it (sorta). I couldn't get to the menus or ingame because the game like to crash at random locations and usually it's never the same twice. Xbox handles exceptions differently than a PC does (afaik) so some faulty code doesn't effect the Xbox. The problem seems almost impossible to track -_- Just keeping you all updated on my end...

Neat! Are you going to check the changes into your SVN branch?

I've begun debugging 4x4 Evo 2 (3911). One of the fixes also got Star Wars: Clone Wars (5233) to boot to loading screen.

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[Chrono Archangel]

Good job to the both of you

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[shogun_nihon]

And now I must say way to go Nisse.

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[proger]

Man, a lot has happened since I've last checked. Keep it up, guys.

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