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Old March 26th, 2012, 14:20   #1721
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Well, I think they dropped the ball this round, though. Probably because they wanted to rush to the market earlier, but... it looks like a pretty safe bet that the refresh next year will feature significantly faster processors (Cortex A15), significantly faster GPU (PowerVR G6), more RAM (hopefully), slimmer form factor, better efficiency, among other things...

When viewed in that light, the iPad 3 quickly becomes a stepping stone for something greater next year.

Plus if I have to wait for contents for a whole year, then I might well wait for the tablet itself.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 15:02   #1722
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Well, i've completely lost interest in the iPad myself(just returned my iPad 3 few minutes ago). It may be a super powerful device but they are putting there efforts in the wrong direction in my opinion. At this point in time they seem to be rushing in order to push new technologies instead of focusing in a more open enviroment and fixing other problems.

People doesn't need a device that can display higher resolutions than many PC monitors out there yet the device don't provide a way to play 1080p in a proper way let alone there are no movies that use higher resolution. Because of that the display and technology they put on that devices are useless and that is the point we come to my previous point.... "USABILITY". What people really need is a device that provides more usabily to the end user rather than restrinctions. For instance a Ferrari locked at 120km/h or country where you can't drive faster than that is nothing but useless.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 22:11   #1723
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With that screen res, Apple is really future proofing.
We will not see a change in that aspect for a couple of years.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 22:11   #1724
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Old March 26th, 2012, 22:48   #1725
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Future-proof is Apple's software.

The iPad 3 itself is not future-proof. One year goes by fast.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 23:36   #1726
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If there is one thing i really praise about Apple then is there software and they inspire me day by day in my development. Am just not sure if rushing the way they are doing now is good for the future of there devices or not as they should concentrate in a lot of things that need more attention in there OS and development than offer more hadware changes. In the other hands MS could take an example and move there a**es and develope something meaningful.

If MS employees start using there heads and time to develope and design Metro they could do some awesome stuff kicking the butt of the iPad if they wish.... for some reasons they aren't doing that. I'm not sure if they just have idiots in there development teams(i highly doubt it) or if they just do it on porpuse. The reason why am saying that is because i saw Windows 8 running on a very powerful i5 Samsung Slate 7 tablet and Metro struggles to allow users to even re-order items which is something Apple did years ago. What really angers me is that is no reason for lags or troubles as they have all the necessary power and tools to accomplish that.

If they wake up of there dream they could definitely bring some nice competition to the table. The reason why i know they could is because as the application designer of my development team i've been working recently in new concepts such as MVVM and other development patterns and design and even reading the book "The Human Interface" to comprehend more about UI design. Because of that i started a concept for my work that its going to be used in x86 tablets such as the Samsung Slate 7 tablet and big machines with a touch panel.

This is what i got after 1 day of concept planning and drawing and 2 days of development:


I mean... what you can see on that video is nothing special yet but when you think about it it shows a lot after just 2 days of development so why can a entire team be better than that???

What i don't understand is that a whole team of developers is incapable of offering a proper item re-ordering behaviour nor a UI that could be usage for x86 and in that way bring the true power and usability of those but instead just let Apple Win that easy. On the other hands Apple should work in there philosophy and start to be more open minded in my eyes.

Seriously.... am starting to doubt that Windows 8 tablets will ever get far if the developers behind the UI design doesn't wake up before is too late.

Last but not least this is my small rant after seeing Windows 8 in action on a Samsung Slate 7 tablet... probably the most powerful tablet i've seen.... its so sad.... so sad.... it really pains me to see so much potential being wasted.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 00:21   #1727
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Future-proof is Apple's software.

The iPad 3 itself is not future-proof. One year goes by fast.
I'm not saying the whole iPad 3, just the resolution.

With that screen resolution you know they wont change that for a couple of years.

Plus right know they are taking a bit of a hit on the cost of that screen, so they will surely use it for a couple of years to get it down.

I predict we'll see that res for 2 years or 3 tops.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 09:24   #1728
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Dualbooting CM9 and webOS on my TouchPad, seems to be working pretty well so far. I'll post a video later today.
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does DrawSomething work well on it?
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Old March 27th, 2012, 13:19   #1730
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Dualbooting CM9 and webOS on my TouchPad, seems to be working pretty well so far. I'll post a video later today.
Yeah, I just have a couple of wifi issues sometimes on CM9.

I tried Cornerstone on it, Able to open 3 apps at the same time.

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Hmmmm nice repositioning and quite easy to simulate.... thank you for sharing the video.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 20:48   #1732
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I knew I was forgetting something, I got sidetracked by Cornerstone and GTA3 .
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Old March 27th, 2012, 22:40   #1733
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I think @ruantec would love this: Android "emulator" for Windows PC
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Old March 27th, 2012, 22:57   #1734
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I saw it already and in one of my Samsung Slate 7 videos the woman that reviewed was shocked to find out that a certain app loads way faster than on the ASUS Prime tablet with its quad-core.
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Like I kept saying, even the anemic first-generation Atom processors outperform the dual-core A5 many folds over in raw processing power. So by that logic, the quad-core Tegra 3 is still not a match for even a single core 800MHz Atom even if we consider 100% perfect scaling for all cores. The only area where Tegra 3, A5 and other ARM SoCs can outperform x86 is where dedicated processors (like video decoders, sound processors, etc...) are concerned.

And that's why I think I'll stick with my quad-core Sandy laptop for a long while to come now.
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I saw it already and in one of my Samsung Slate 7 videos the woman that reviewed was shocked to find out that a certain app loads way faster than on the ASUS Prime tablet with its quad-core.
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If there is one thing i really praise about Apple then is there software and they inspire me day by day in my development. Am just not sure if rushing the way they are doing now is good for the future of there devices or not as they should concentrate in a lot of things that need more attention in there OS and development than offer more hadware changes. In the other hands MS could take an example and move there a**es and develope something meaningful.

If MS employees start using there heads and time to develope and design Metro they could do some awesome stuff kicking the butt of the iPad if they wish.... for some reasons they aren't doing that. I'm not sure if they just have idiots in there development teams(i highly doubt it) or if they just do it on porpuse. The reason why am saying that is because i saw Windows 8 running on a very powerful i5 Samsung Slate 7 tablet and Metro struggles to allow users to even re-order items which is something Apple did years ago. What really angers me is that is no reason for lags or troubles as they have all the necessary power and tools to accomplish that.

If they wake up of there dream they could definitely bring some nice competition to the table. The reason why i know they could is because as the application designer of my development team i've been working recently in new concepts such as MVVM and other development patterns and design and even reading the book "The Human Interface" to comprehend more about UI design. Because of that i started a concept for my work that its going to be used in x86 tablets such as the Samsung Slate 7 tablet and big machines with a touch panel.

This is what i got after 1 day of concept planning and drawing and 2 days of development:


I mean... what you can see on that video is nothing special yet but when you think about it it shows a lot after just 2 days of development so why can a entire team be better than that???

What i don't understand is that a whole team of developers is incapable of offering a proper item re-ordering behaviour nor a UI that could be usage for x86 and in that way bring the true power and usability of those but instead just let Apple Win that easy. On the other hands Apple should work in there philosophy and start to be more open minded in my eyes.

Seriously.... am starting to doubt that Windows 8 tablets will ever get far if the developers behind the UI design doesn't wake up before is too late.

Last but not least this is my small rant after seeing Windows 8 in action on a Samsung Slate 7 tablet... probably the most powerful tablet i've seen.... its so sad.... so sad.... it really pains me to see so much potential being wasted.
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tried it, works well.

btw, the Android SDK recently got updated and apparantly the included emulator now runs on X86 and thus much faster.
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4) Back to the screen: while it's amazing, there is... next to nothing (except texts and DSLR-imported photos) that can max out its potentials. To put it mildly, the screen makes everything look like ****, and the problem is... everything is ****. Save for my books in PDF form, 101% of the internet, 99.9999% of the app store (you can count half of Apple's own apps, even), 1000% of book publishers, and 10,000% of consumer-grade media (photos, movies, music videos, etc...) are not ready for this kind of device, and my guess is that it would take another 365 days for all of those to catch up, by which time, hell, the iPad 4 has already **** all over this one. It's a shame, but really... I think the screen is very, very, very overkill for what is available right now. It's too far ahead of itself. Maybe when Apple has invented a mobile processor that can play back 4K contents that we'll have something to discuss.
I do agree in general about most content looking crappy on the iPad 3. In fairness, it's only when compared to the otherwise sharp, clear text on the screen. Most web graphics have always looked crappy but whereas before, everything looked crappy, now, the crappy graphics show a marked contrast to the clear text.

However, I don't agree about the point regarding books. A lot of books are primarily text and they look quite nice on the new iPad's retina display. In fact, they're probably one of the few things that benefited from the increase in resolution. Granted, the low-res covers do leave a lot to be desired.

I don't think you need DSLR, either. 2048x1536 is just 3MP. We've used the iPad to view 6MP pictures that were taken on my 6-year old point and shoot camera and they look fine. Granted, I don't think native 3MP pictures would look quite as nice (would probably show compression artifacts, noise, etc).

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5) 4G/LTE is useless since 4G is the same 3G we've had since forever, and LTE isn't available where God has made land (and ocean). But hey, it's closer to my home WIFI, so I should be able to stream seven-twenty... what? No, no 720p for you, sir. Your LTE connection seems so fast compared to WIFI because you are streaming 360p! Jokes aside, there's a way to get over that. But apparently, Apple can't get over itself to at least negotiate with carriers to allow 720p streaming over cellular network. And 360p looks like... urg... imagine blowing a Chip-8 game up to your 70" HDTV. It's that bad.
Happily, I've tested mine and I get minimum 10Mbps down with Verizon LTE in the areas where I use it (actually, 15~20Mbps is the norm) which is just a tad slower than my cable internet (30Mbps) and a lot faster than my old AT&T DSL (3Mbps). Haven't streamed video on it aside from YouTube, though. You could easily blow through the measly monthly bandwidth caps in a single afternoon streaming 360p. 720p? You could go through the 2~3GB cap ($30) in just 1~2 hours.

By the way, it doesn't seem like 720p is restricted on cellular data. There was a report of a guy using up his entire bandwidth allocation watching MLB in 720p so the cap's not built in to the iPad itself. I would guess that most apps purposely limit bandwidth usage (therefore bitrate and quality) when using cellular data. Frankly, I wish apps would let me choose if I want to stream in crappy 240p/360p and conserve my bandwidth or stream in so-so 720p or bitrate-starved 1080p and let me worry about overage charges.

I do wish Apple had negotiated with US carriers to at least allow FaceTime on 4G. It's plenty fast enough. I've found AT&T's 3G to be sufficient for FaceTime (ironically, the iPhone won't do it but an iPad/iPod Touch tethered to the iPhone will).

Unfortunately, when even most home broadband connections in the US have bandwidth caps (although far more generous at 100GB+), I don't think that web or streaming content will catch up quite as quickly.

As an aside, the Kindle (6", 800x600) doesn't have ultra-sharp text. Among e-ink readers, the Sony PRS-350 (5", 800x600) or the iRiver Story HD (6", 1024x768) probably have the highest DPI but text is still not as sharp compared to the iPhone 4 or 3rd gen iPad. That said, the lack of backlight does make the Kindle easier on the eyes.

The iPad 2 was actually rumored to have retina display. However, tech pundits said it was delayed for this year's iPad because they just couldn't manufacturer enough of the high-res screens.

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I will do it but for x86 tablets. Android already have a great interface i think but x86 lacks a proper UI and Windows 8 doesn't seem to be the solution to those problems. Because of that i may jump to the rescue and probably gain some profit out of it after all but i guess only the time will tell XD

Anyways thank you for showing interest
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