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satchigi · February 12th, 2012, 01:45

Really nice. I just registered for replying. It works like charm with FF9. The only thing I feel pity is that it really fixes clipping almost, but not perfectly.
Juran// same opinion here =D

KrossX · February 12th, 2012, 02:25

That reminds me I never tested it further. XD
Though having this and BladeSoft's filtering would be amazing.

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TurkeyXD · February 13th, 2012, 00:59

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Originally Posted by satchigi

Really nice. I just registered for replying. It works like charm with FF9. The only thing I feel pity is that it really fixes clipping almost, but not perfectly.
Juran// same opinion here =D

I joined this forum just to comment on this plugin update/mod. I'm really impressed how much better Gran Turismo 2 looks. Still, I wish there was an ability to use shaders like Pete's OGL2. I hope things get developed further. I'd like to one day play my PSOne games with little to no shaky geometry.

Princess Garnet · February 18th, 2012, 16:46

I was struggling to see the difference at first until I noticed it seemed to help lessen the issues the lack of a Z buffer causes; the thing nobody thought could be fixed without plenty of game specific workings!? Personally, I'm not too bothered by that since I play games at lower resolution (where it's less apparent), plus it registers as natural since I'm so used to it, but still, this is pretty major so why is this not getting more attention!?

Back in the prime days, this would be getting all sorts of commotion, it'd probably be in the news section, and you'd be given some sort of plug-in or whatever status I imagine along with a dedicated download page (shame the site was tore apart in that regard).

It's a shame nobody seems to pay attention, which I imagine puts those who work on this stuff off a bit, because PlayStation emulation needs this; this was one of the major things nobody thought could be practically fixed, no? It just goes to show there is still work on old stuff, even if it's not as much, but the site hasn't been managing well as a central hub for the scene for it all like it used to.

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KrossX · February 18th, 2012, 19:15

There's not much interest nowadays for PSX I'm afraid. And less so here, since overall, most projects have their own forum already. There's even some mention of zbuffer on edgBla's thread, which would also be awesome. XD

Some links:

http://pcsxr.codeplex.com/discussions/264234
full source: http://sfx.gligli.free.fr/psx_enhanc...ce!_v2_src.rar
(I'll see if I can make patches later instead)

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whypowt · February 21st, 2012, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Darkness Knight

Good! =D
Driver - You are the Wheelman

man that game looks bad on any psx emu - for the love of god get the hi-res PC version of driver 1!

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Darkness Knight · March 19th, 2012, 00:51

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Originally Posted by whypowt

man that game looks bad on any psx emu - for the love of god get the hi-res PC version of driver 1!

The version of psx is a bit different, a classic!

P.D: I recovery my password xD (!)

Salu2 - Darkness Knight

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Leiw · March 19th, 2012, 01:55

this is very interesting, I'll give it a try with FF9

the_randomizer · March 19th, 2012, 06:17

Can't even get it to work. I configure the plugin, load it up, and the resolution never changes, not to mention that z-buffering doesn't work in Chrono Cross. What am I doing wrong?

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Darkness Knight · March 22nd, 2012, 03:33

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Originally Posted by the_randomizer

Can't even get it to work. I configure the plugin, load it up, and the resolution never changes, not to mention that z-buffering doesn't work in Chrono Cross. What am I doing wrong?

LOL, Z buffer is WIP, not released.......last version is v1.41.

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the_randomizer · March 22nd, 2012, 05:06

That would explain it. Crap....

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KrossX · March 22nd, 2012, 06:23

He's talking about gpuBladeSoft though, which ain't about this hack.

I just tested it with Metal Gear and it does indeed make it less wobbly, nice. When I tested it before, some games indeed had no change at all and Motorhead went nuts. Just keep the console open to see the messages when pressing F11 or Shift F11, to be sure that is.

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the_randomizer · March 22nd, 2012, 07:24

I thought that it was gpuBladeSoft that has the Z-buffer.

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KrossX · March 22nd, 2012, 07:49

The Depth option seems to add some minor glitches but no improvements on my tests, at all. I guess the normal version is what got implemented as the GTE Accuracy option in PCSX-R OpenGL plugin. Too bad they took out the toggle key, or so it seems.

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Happy1337 · March 31st, 2012, 01:42

Thats pretty nice

It makes a significant difference in Wipeout !
Didn't test other games so far

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bennin · January 21st, 2013, 05:34

Wow, this is a very nice improvement! Thanks, gligli. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

I tried both versions with the current PCSX-R 1.9.92 and I only see the improved effect with your psx_enhance! v1 package. I'm not sure why v2 isn't showing the same improvement.

Has there been any further progress with this project? Or is anyone else working on something similar for these types of 3D racing games? Perhaps a version adapted for Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.9? I tried the v1 plugin with ePSXe 1.80, but triangles were all over the place, then it crashed.

EDIT: Ok, I found a recent SVN build of PCSX-R and looked at the GTE Accuracy option. It seems to be a similar improvement, but I'm not sure if it's exactly the same.

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February 12th, 2012, 01:45	#21
satchigi Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1	Really nice. I just registered for replying. It works like charm with FF9. The only thing I feel pity is that it really fixes clipping almost, but not perfectly. Juran// same opinion here =D

February 12th, 2012, 02:25	#22
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,649	That reminds me I never tested it further. XD Though having this and BladeSoft's filtering would be amazing. __________________

February 18th, 2012, 16:46	#24
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	I was struggling to see the difference at first until I noticed it seemed to help lessen the issues the lack of a Z buffer causes; the thing nobody thought could be fixed without plenty of game specific workings!? Personally, I'm not too bothered by that since I play games at lower resolution (where it's less apparent), plus it registers as natural since I'm so used to it, but still, this is pretty major so why is this not getting more attention!? Back in the prime days, this would be getting all sorts of commotion, it'd probably be in the news section, and you'd be given some sort of plug-in or whatever status I imagine along with a dedicated download page (shame the site was tore apart in that regard). It's a shame nobody seems to pay attention, which I imagine puts those who work on this stuff off a bit, because PlayStation emulation needs this; this was one of the major things nobody thought could be practically fixed, no? It just goes to show there is still work on old stuff, even if it's not as much, but the site hasn't been managing well as a central hub for the scene for it all like it used to. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

February 18th, 2012, 19:15	#25
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,649	There's not much interest nowadays for PSX I'm afraid. And less so here, since overall, most projects have their own forum already. There's even some mention of zbuffer on edgBla's thread, which would also be awesome. XD Some links: http://pcsxr.codeplex.com/discussions/264234 full source: http://sfx.gligli.free.fr/psx_enhanc...ce!_v2_src.rar (I'll see if I can make patches later instead) __________________

March 19th, 2012, 01:55	#28
Leiw Perpetual Dualism Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Training with Zangief in the USSR Posts: 425	this is very interesting, I'll give it a try with FF9

March 19th, 2012, 06:17	#29
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,617	Can't even get it to work. I configure the plugin, load it up, and the resolution never changes, not to mention that z-buffering doesn't work in Chrono Cross. What am I doing wrong? __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green

March 22nd, 2012, 05:06	#31
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,617	That would explain it. Crap.... __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green

March 22nd, 2012, 06:23	#32
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,649	He's talking about gpuBladeSoft though, which ain't about this hack. I just tested it with Metal Gear and it does indeed make it less wobbly, nice. When I tested it before, some games indeed had no change at all and Motorhead went nuts. Just keep the console open to see the messages when pressing F11 or Shift F11, to be sure that is. __________________

March 22nd, 2012, 07:24	#33
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,617	I thought that it was gpuBladeSoft that has the Z-buffer. __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green

March 22nd, 2012, 07:49	#34
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,649	The Depth option seems to add some minor glitches but no improvements on my tests, at all. I guess the normal version is what got implemented as the GTE Accuracy option in PCSX-R OpenGL plugin. Too bad they took out the toggle key, or so it seems. __________________

March 31st, 2012, 01:42	#35
Happy1337 Hero Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 74	Thats pretty nice It makes a significant difference in Wipeout ! Didn't test other games so far __________________ Q6600@3,6Ghz 8GB DDR2 Radeon HD 4890 950/1050

January 21st, 2013, 05:34	#36
bennin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1	Wow, this is a very nice improvement! Thanks, gligli. It's exactly what I've been looking for. I tried both versions with the current PCSX-R 1.9.92 and I only see the improved effect with your psx_enhance! v1 package. I'm not sure why v2 isn't showing the same improvement. Has there been any further progress with this project? Or is anyone else working on something similar for these types of 3D racing games? Perhaps a version adapted for Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.9? I tried the v1 plugin with ePSXe 1.80, but triangles were all over the place, then it crashed. EDIT: Ok, I found a recent SVN build of PCSX-R and looked at the GTE Accuracy option. It seems to be a similar improvement, but I'm not sure if it's exactly the same. Last edited by bennin; January 21st, 2013 at 06:07..