Geforce 4.....

sonicfoot · December 25th, 2001

the geforce 4!

woah! you have got to read this!
go to this site to find out more:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1009171412

December 25th, 2001

Very interesting. I wonder what these are going to cost? The GEForce 3s are still in the $300-$400 (US dollars) rage. Also Nvidia hasn't even fully realized the potential of the GEForce 3s and the GEForce 2s are definately viable cards. So, what is Nvidia thinking?
I think this going to be a case of "Too much to soon." But, we will have to wait and see. Maybe the prices of the GEForce 3s will drop and I will be able to pick one up sometime soon now.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**Zephon** · December 25th, 2001

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Originally posted by sxamiga
Very interesting. I wonder what these are going to cost? The GEForce 3s are still in the $300-$400 (US dollars) rage. Also Nvidia hasn't even fully realized the potential of the GEForce 3s and the GEForce 2s are definately viable cards. So, what is Nvidia thinking?
I think this going to be a case of "Too much to soon." But, we will have to wait and see. Maybe the prices of the GEForce 3s will drop and I will be able to pick one up sometime soon now.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

I agree with you, sxamiga. Today games hardly use all GF3 resources, so why do we need a new card, probably with new features and instructions? It's just like my thread in the hardware discussion about the GF3 with 128MB, it's useless for now, and it is a waste of money.

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sonicfoot · December 25th, 2001

hi guys, i forgot to mention something about geforce 4 ti 1000 using "agp 8". Ive never heard of agp 8 before, do they even exists? and i thought most graphics card havent even fully utilised agp 4 yet!:confused:

December 25th, 2001

Thanks Zephon, that is why I posted the this. I mean, really, use up your older cards resources before bringing out new pricier cards.
Sonicfoot, AGP 8??? If they are talking about 8x AGP, then that is ridiculous as the highest any Mother Board will go, right now, is AGP 4x. I repeat, what is Nvidia thinking???????:confused:
sincerely,
sx/amiga

aoshi · December 25th, 2001

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Originally posted by sxamiga
Thanks Zephon, that is why I posted the this. I mean, really, use up your older cards resources before bringing out new pricier cards.
Sonicfoot, AGP 8??? If they are talking about 8x AGP, then that is ridiculous as the highest any Mother Board will go, right now, is AGP 4x. I repeat, what is Nvidia thinking???????:confused:
sincerely,
sx/amiga

i think the new nForce chipset mobos(which was also by nvidia...hmm monopoly?) are agp 8x compliant. i think via will be releasing a counterpart any time soon.

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**Demigod** · December 25th, 2001

Nvidia has always stuck with a 6 month product cycle and they've always introduced features long before they're of any viable use. If you remember the GeForce256 days the benefits of T&L wasn't realized until the GeForce 2 days. The GeForce 4 is nothing new, just the next generation of the GeForce GPU.

What I do have a problem with is AGP 8x. I don't understand why they would develop this technology now. I just don't see its benefits, the optimal speed right now is AGP 2x. I think it's all just a marketing ploy, like AGP 4x was.

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**Ryos** · December 25th, 2001

I wouldn't be surprised to see the new GeForce generation have price ranges of $500 or more. The less powerful ones will probably run about $300 or so. This is just speculating based on NVIDIA's relative monopoly (and no, ATI isn't serious competition at this point of time). I don't see much of a point in the GeForce 4 right now, although I'm sure a lot of people will flock to it so they have the latest and greatest.

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n0estoy · December 25th, 2001

man...i'm still enjoying my Geforce 256 DDR

Badaro · December 26th, 2001

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man...i'm still enjoying my Geforce 256 DDR

Hey, even my good old Voodoo 3 is still running pretty nicely!

[]s Badaro

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Arpanet · December 26th, 2001

I dunno, you guys... I got a GF3-equipped box today, and HOOOO BOY, this baby is a screamer. I'm now officially an nVidia whore

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negative_pi · December 26th, 2001

Could this GeForce 4 be a PC remake of what they put in the Xbox?

**Raziel** · December 26th, 2001

The Xbox GPU is a tweaked GeForce 3,so I think that the "GeForce 4" will have more power.

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sonicfoot · December 26th, 2001

even though it was me who started this post, Nvidia isnt on my good side anymore, i agreee with everyone that a geforce 4 is a waste of time and money. If i can play Max payne on my tnt2 pci card decently, why should i bother getting a geforce 4?

**Prafull** · December 26th, 2001

Hmmm,
very very interesting.Today's technology seems to be progressing by leaps and bounds.I was just wondering when the prices of geforce 3 will come down and now I am told about this.Man ,Gaming seems to have a very very bright future.

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sonicfoot · December 26th, 2001

personally, i believe that one problem is that things are going too fast now. the problrm before was that things were too slow , now its compleatly the opposite. We can easilly get a pc that has a geforce 3, 256 mb ram, 1.8gig p4, 40 gig harddrive for just £700 here in england.

dpence · December 26th, 2001

The Reason nVidia is working the Geforce 4 is simple. the ATI radeon 8500 blows a geforce 3 out of the water.
It''s cheaper, looks better has just as much speed and is 100% directx8.1 Compliant, whereas the geforce 3 is only dx8.1 compatible, doesn't have nearly as good the visual quality and costs much more.

ATI is giving them competition so they want to try to beat them out.

A friend recently got an 8500 and I was blown away..nVidia may not be the king much longer cause the ATI is an awesome card!.

Hanamichi · December 26th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by dpence
The Reason nVidia is working the Geforce 4 is simple. the ATI radeon 8500 blows a geforce 3 out of the water.
It''s cheaper, looks better has just as much speed and is 100% directx8.1 Compliant, whereas the geforce 3 is only dx8.1 compatible, doesn't have nearly as good the visual quality and costs much more.

ATI is giving them competition so they want to try to beat them out.

A friend recently got an 8500 and I was blown away..nVidia may not be the king much longer cause the ATI is an awesome card!.

Maybe Ill get an ATI Radeon instead of a GeForce3

About what is the price of Radeon8500 ?

expert464 · December 26th, 2001

I believe the Radeon8500's are still going for $199US.. add in a couple more for retailers and its still a lot less than the GeForce3 Ti500.

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**Zephon** · December 26th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by dpence
The Reason nVidia is working the Geforce 4 is simple. the ATI radeon 8500 blows a geforce 3 out of the water.
It''s cheaper, looks better has just as much speed and is 100% directx8.1 Compliant, whereas the geforce 3 is only dx8.1 compatible, doesn't have nearly as good the visual quality and costs much more.

ATI is giving them competition so they want to try to beat them out.

A friend recently got an 8500 and I was blown away..nVidia may not be the king much longer cause the ATI is an awesome card!.

ATI is getting better, but the Geforce3 is still better than Radeon 8500. When 4XFSAA is enabled, the 8500 can't even be compared to Geforce3's performance. ATI's good point is certainly the price, that is much cheaper than a Geforce3. Radeon 8500 was a big step for ATI, but it's still not enough to get to the same level as the GF3.

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December 25th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Very interesting. I wonder what these are going to cost? The GEForce 3s are still in the $300-$400 (US dollars) rage. Also Nvidia hasn't even fully realized the potential of the GEForce 3s and the GEForce 2s are definately viable cards. So, what is Nvidia thinking? I think this going to be a case of "Too much to soon." But, we will have to wait and see. Maybe the prices of the GEForce 3s will drop and I will be able to pick one up sometime soon now. sincerely, sx/amiga

December 25th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
sonicfoot Why im I not Happy? Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: England Posts: 714	hi guys, i forgot to mention something about geforce 4 ti 1000 using "agp 8". Ive never heard of agp 8 before, do they even exists? and i thought most graphics card havent even fully utilised agp 4 yet!:confused:

December 25th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks Zephon, that is why I posted the this. I mean, really, use up your older cards resources before bringing out new pricier cards. Sonicfoot, AGP 8??? If they are talking about 8x AGP, then that is ridiculous as the highest any Mother Board will go, right now, is AGP 4x. I repeat, what is Nvidia thinking???????:confused: sincerely, sx/amiga

December 25th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,871	Nvidia has always stuck with a 6 month product cycle and they've always introduced features long before they're of any viable use. If you remember the GeForce256 days the benefits of T&L wasn't realized until the GeForce 2 days. The GeForce 4 is nothing new, just the next generation of the GeForce GPU. What I do have a problem with is AGP 8x. I don't understand why they would develop this technology now. I just don't see its benefits, the optimal speed right now is AGP 2x. I think it's all just a marketing ploy, like AGP 4x was. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 8192 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 1 TB Seagate & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

December 25th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	I wouldn't be surprised to see the new GeForce generation have price ranges of $500 or more. The less powerful ones will probably run about $300 or so. This is just speculating based on NVIDIA's relative monopoly (and no, ATI isn't serious competition at this point of time). I don't see much of a point in the GeForce 4 right now, although I'm sure a lot of people will flock to it so they have the latest and greatest. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

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n0estoy old-timer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: texas Posts: 1,317	man...i'm still enjoying my Geforce 256 DDR

December 26th, 2001	#11 (permalink)
Arpanet Powerslave Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The eyes of the night Posts: 1,812	I dunno, you guys... I got a GF3-equipped box today, and HOOOO BOY, this baby is a screamer. I'm now officially an nVidia whore __________________ -----------------------------------THE\|ALCHEMIST----------------------------------- P4 2.4C @ 3 GHz \| 512 MB Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR400 Dual Channel 2-2-4-5 Asus P4P800 BIOS 1010 \| WD800JB SE Caviar \| RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB DDR a.k.a. Asfaloth. Batards unite!

December 26th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
negative_pi Main screen turn on! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 98	Could this GeForce 4 be a PC remake of what they put in the Xbox?

December 26th, 2001	#13 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,246	The Xbox GPU is a tweaked GeForce 3,so I think that the "GeForce 4" will have more power. __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400

December 26th, 2001	#14 (permalink)
sonicfoot Why im I not Happy? Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: England Posts: 714	even though it was me who started this post, Nvidia isnt on my good side anymore, i agreee with everyone that a geforce 4 is a waste of time and money. If i can play Max payne on my tnt2 pci card decently, why should i bother getting a geforce 4?

December 26th, 2001	#15 (permalink)
Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 5,046	Hmmm, very very interesting.Today's technology seems to be progressing by leaps and bounds.I was just wondering when the prices of geforce 3 will come down and now I am told about this.Man ,Gaming seems to have a very very bright future. __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, MSI GTX260, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM, BENQ E2200HD.

December 26th, 2001	#16 (permalink)
sonicfoot Why im I not Happy? Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: England Posts: 714	personally, i believe that one problem is that things are going too fast now. the problrm before was that things were too slow , now its compleatly the opposite. We can easilly get a pc that has a geforce 3, 256 mb ram, 1.8gig p4, 40 gig harddrive for just £700 here in england.

December 26th, 2001	#17 (permalink)
dpence Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 1,119	The Reason nVidia is working the Geforce 4 is simple. the ATI radeon 8500 blows a geforce 3 out of the water. It''s cheaper, looks better has just as much speed and is 100% directx8.1 Compliant, whereas the geforce 3 is only dx8.1 compatible, doesn't have nearly as good the visual quality and costs much more. ATI is giving them competition so they want to try to beat them out. A friend recently got an 8500 and I was blown away..nVidia may not be the king much longer cause the ATI is an awesome card!.

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expert464 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 275	I believe the Radeon8500's are still going for $199US.. add in a couple more for retailers and its still a lot less than the GeForce3 Ti500. __________________ AMD Athlon 1700+ / 512mb DDRam / GeForce2 GTS / Windows XP